Ben Ratliff,
author of
Coltrane: The Story of a Sound
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What was the essence of John Coltrane’s achievement that
makes him so prized forty years after his death? What was it about his
improvising, his bands, his compositions, his place within his era of jazz
that left so many musicians and listeners so powerfully drawn to him? What
would a John Coltrane look like now -- or are we looking for the wrong signs?
The acclaimed jazz writer Ben Ratliff addresses these
questions in Coltrane. First Ratliff tells the story of Coltrane’s
development, from his first recordings as a no-name navy bandsman to his
last recordings as a near-saint, paying special attention to the last ten
years of his life, which contained a remarkable series of breakthroughs in
a nearly religious search for deeper expression.
In the book’s second half, Ratliff traces another history:
that of Coltrane’s influence and legacy. This story begins in the mid - 1950's
and considers the reactions of musicians, critics, and others who paid attention,
asking: Why does Coltrane signify so heavily in the basic identity of
jazz?
Placing jazz among other art forms and American social
history, and placing Coltrane not just among jazz musicians but among the
greatest American artists, Ratliff tries to look for the sources of power
in Coltrane’s music -- not just in matters of technique, composition, and
musical concepts, but in the deeper frequencies of Coltrane’s sound.#
Ratliff joins us in a conversation about Coltrane's sound
and influence in a January 29, 2008 interview.
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Interview Topics
Preparation for writing the
book
What was
more impactful -- his music or his influence?
What
Coltrane's music signified for the author at a young age
Describing Coltrane's sound
Recordings
on which Coltrane's sound first appeared
The importance
of "Straight, No Chaser" from Milestones
With Monk at the Five Spot
in 1957
Negative reaction to Coltrane's
work
The sound of the 1960's and
Coltrane
Giant Steps
Musicians' desire to play
like Coltrane
Coltrane's influence
and its impact on jazz
Is there a "Contemporary
Coltrane?"
About Ben Ratliff
Critical acclaim for the book
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Photo by
Lee
Tanner
John Coltrane
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"John Coltrane tends to be understood in either one of two ways, as the
one-man academy of jazz -- the king student, the exhaustively precise teacher
-- or as the great psychic liberator of jazz who rendered the academy
obsolete.
"Indirectly, by example, Coltrane encouraged musicians to practice and
study rudiments and scales and harmonic theory. He played the blues in unusual
keys for the sheer challenge of it. He worked on himself until he became
a great technical achievement, the complete jazz musician. Even more indirectly,
he encouraged other musicians, in jazz and outside of jazz, to transcend
their hang-ups and preconceptions and to play a pure intuitive expression,
as opposed to learned figures. He helped people freak out; he gave them
extramusical ideas.
"Whether or not the ideas were his prime motivation -- I think they were
not -- Coltrane played all his music with such commitment that he could seem
as if he were selling intellectual ideas outside of music. Even Duke Ellington's
later music pales by comparison in terms of its commitment to the
"Afro-Eurasian Eclipse," the "New Orleans Suite," the "Sacred Concerts" --
lovely works all, they are filled with niceties. Ellington never let you
forget that music was his profession. On the other hand, the popular vision
of Coltrane is that he seemed to ask you, repeatedly, to alter your life."
- Ben Ratliff
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Afro-Blue
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JJM
You wrote, "His career, especially the last ten years of it,
was so unreasonably exceptional that when he became seen as the representative
jazz musician, the general comprehension of how and why jazz works became
changed; it also became jagged and dangerous with half-truths. Every half-truth
needs a full explanation." How did you prepare for writing this book?
BR In a very unscientific way. I felt like
I was preparing for it just by observing jazz concerts for the last ten years
or so, because half of the book is about what happened to jazz as a result
of what Coltrane brought to it, and how we think about jazz after Coltrane.
He changed our perception of jazz in a really large way. At first it was
just sitting down and listening to everything in sequence and then writing,
because the first half of the book is making the connections between all
the different parts of his work, and how they fit together and flow into
each other. When I got to the second part of the book, which is about his
reception as opposed to the making of the art, I tried to read everything
there was to read -- interviews and analysis -- but I was very conscious
of trying not to draw too much from the sources that everyone knows because
I wanted this book to be different from others that have been written about
him. When I told people I was writing a book about Coltrane, often times
the first thing they would say was "Why another one, and how is this going
to be any different than those that were already written?" I felt like I
had an obligation to answer that question in my writing.
| JJM For one thing your book is different
because it is not a biography. In describing it, you wrote, "This is not
a book about Coltrane's life, but the story of his work. The first part tells
the story of his music as it was made…the second part tells the story of
his influence." Which was more impactful -- his music or his influence?
BR The thing about Coltrane is that he was
such a great musician that even after having listened to his music closely
for five years, I never became bored or disillusioned because his level of
craft was so high. Where it gets really interesting is the fact that he left
us with a set of ideals, some of which even came to be contradictory. On
one side is the ideal of the cathartic improviser who needs to get everything
out of himself, to say everything he has to say regardless of whether it
fits into bar lines or whether it has to do with traditional structure; and
on the other side is the ideal of the completely prepared and educated student,
who knows and analyzes the rules, and who understands the feeling of jazz
from every era of the music before his own. So, basically what I am talking
about is the old idea of the split between free players and so-called traditional
players -- a split that becomes more and more imaginary as the years go by.
The split was a relevant thing for a long time in jazz, and I found it incredible
that both of these two schools of thought that for a while worked against
each other, came from the same man. I found myself endlessly fascinated by
the fact that he was able to contain so much inside his music. |
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"Coltrane -- whose music is marked by remarkable technique, strength
in all registers of the tenor and soprano saxophones, slightly sharp intonation,
serene intensity, and a rapid, mobile exploration of chords, not just melody
-- made jazz that was alternately seductive, mainstream, and antagonistic."
- Ben Ratliff
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Summertime
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Photo by
Lee
Tanner
Miles Davis, with Paul Chambers, Jimmy Cobb, Cannonball Adderley,
John Coltrane
Chicago Amphitheater, 1957
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So What
, a video of Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Paul Chambers, Philly Joe Jones, and Wynton Kelly
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JJM You wrote, "His art, nearly up
to the end, was not insular, and kept signifying different things for different
people of different cultures and races." What did it signify for you when
you first heard his music?
BR I remember my blank slate reaction very
well. As a teenager I listened to the Miles Davis Quintet records from the
fifties -- Workin', Relaxin', Cookin' -- and I felt as if I understood
what Miles Davis was up to, probably because he phrased so simply. There
was a little bit of a sense of humor and a flip attitude in the music, and
I could recognize these human emotions and attributes and poses, but every
time it was Coltrane's turn to solo, I didn't quite understand what he was
doing -- he seemed to have a much faster idea about music, and it was
intimidating, slightly off-putting and even a little bit scary. I felt that
even then, and that is far from his scariest time! So, it took me a while
to warm up to him, but I knew that I was interested. I also felt that learning
about him would unlock some things for me, which ended up being a sound impulse,
because I do keep learning more -- not just about jazz but about many other
things -- by looking at and listening to Coltrane. |
"…we had Trane on sax, Philly Joe [Jones] on drums, Red Garland
on piano, Paul Chambers on bass, and myself on trumpet. And faster than I
could have imagined, the music that we were playing together was just
unbelievable. It was so bad that it used to send chills through me at night,
and it did the same thing to the audiences, too. Man, the shit we were playing
in a short time was scary, so scary that I used to pinch myself to see if
I was really there."
- Miles Davis
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Four , by the Miles Davis Quintet
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| JJM
How would you describe his sound?
BR Big, resonant, and it begins at a very
high level. He comes to the microphone and delivers a big block of sound
rather than doing the normal sort of bell-shape that the best soloists tend
to do, where they start out small, then they get big, then they get small
and elegant.
Physical descriptions of his sound, especially from my own mouth, always
sound meager, because the whole thing about his sound -- and the reason I
keep using that word in the book -- has to do with the fact that if you follow
his career, and if you look at what he was doing at the end of his life,
you hear these tracks that seemed more and more similar from one to the next,
so in the end the message of his work was not so much about composition or
structure any more, it was about sound -- both the sound coming out of his
individual instrument, and the sound coming out of his band.
Coltrane's sound was at its best when his bandswere at their best. Obviously,
the music of the classic quartet is the best example of a great small band
sound, but I also think the band that recorded Stellar Regions --
with Rashied Ali, Jimmy Garrison, and his wife Alice -- also had the potential
for a great small band sound, it just wasn't realized enough. The sound Coltrane
got from his own instrument had so much width and depth, balance and power
-- it was almost a physical thing that transmitted a lot of information about
who he was. When we say we understand where he was coming from, or when we
say we have an understanding of who Coltrane was as a man or as a musician,
I think we get that from his sound rather than from the melodies he wrote. |
After
the Rain, by Mark Goodman
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My Favorite Things
Impressions
Stellar Regions
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John
Coltrane Quartet, by Kevin Neireiter
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"...one of the mysteries about Coltrane is why he so nonchalantly
subjected his audiences to such a rigorous working-through process. Clearly
he believed, stubbornly, that there was an intrinsic positive force in his
work, something larger than music."
- Ben Ratliff
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One Down, One Up
, from
Live at the Half Note
Vigil
, a filmed performance from 1965
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JJM He thought he could incorporate his
sound into two different bands. In 1966, you quote him saying, "There was
a thing I wanted to do in music, see. I figured I could do two things: I
could have a band that played like the way we used to play, and a band that
was going in the direction that the one I have now [in 1966] is going in
-- I could combine these two, with these two concepts going. And it could
have been done."
BR That is one of the cooler things he ever said.
I saw him as a guy who didn't want to throw away any good ideas that came
to him. He wanted to use as much as he could from what he heard around him
as being provocative, and the good ideas would rise to the top, and the
not-so-good ideas would go away. It was a very natural approach for him.
Similarly, when he was unbeatable in 1964 and 1965 -- during the time was
playing all those gigs at the Half Note in New York -- he would often invite
people on stage to play with his group, which I found quite amazing. Here
he was, perhaps the greatest saxophone player in the world, with the greatest
band, so why would he want to mess with that or dilute it by having other
people on the bandstand? Because he wanted to see what would happen.
My reading of him is because he was such an intense, studious, pattern-oriented
thinker, it was his inclination to study something until it couldn't be studied
any more, and to practice something until the patterns were completely a
part of his bloodstream. That kind of thinking came very natural to him,
and if he knew that was how his mind worked, he may have felt that it could
be an impediment to making great music. So he welcomed these kind of wild
cards or trip wires to get in his way, which could help make him stumble
upon something new he may not have got to on his own.
JJM Sort of a collective learning
experience…
BR Yes, and this could be why he went to
Ornette Coleman and told him he wanted to learn from him, and that he was
doing something he didn't quite understand and wanted to absorb it. I think
that was a remarkably selfless thing for him to have done.
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| JJM On which recording did his "sound" first appear?
BR I can first hear his sound, as I understand
it, on the 1951 bootleg recordings of him playing with Dizzy Gillespie. I
can hear something of his voice, of that great cry, and some of the devices
that he put into his improvising from that point forward. It was already
there. But the moment when I feel he had risen to his feet completely, when
his sound is heard in full, is in the Live at the Village Vanguard
recordings of 1961. He had led this band for about a year by this time,
and he had his bearings about him, and the way "Chasin' the Trane" starts,
bam!, and off they go at full projection -- there is no warming up
at all -- the listener is immediately put into the middle of it. On a recording
from Chicago during the spring of that same year, they play a blues called
"John Paul Jones" -- which was also called "Trane's Blues" or "Vierd Blues"
at different times -- that is one of the greatest things I have ever heard
him do. The blues line is so fantastically strong and beautiful -- and his
play is wild, it gets completely "out," but it is the blues, and he plays
it beautifully.
JJM The way you described how "Chasin' the
Trane" begins reminds me of a conversation between Coltrane and Wayne Shorter
that you report on. You wrote, "…they talked about improvising and language,
and how it might be ideal to start a sentence in the middle, then travel
backward and forward, toward both the subject and the predicate, simultaneously."
BR These are guys who were into Zen riddles,
and propositions that could be transferred from one discipline to another
-- ideas that have nothing to do with music they could possibly take something
from and apply it to their music. That was the way Coltrane thought. These
days we would call it "outside the box" thinking. One of Coltrane's motivations
for wanting to go to Africa at the end of his life was because he was interested
in the rhythms of speech in West African languages, and he saw this as something
he could apply to his phrasing on the saxophone. This is another example
of how he would always look for something that would break up his own iron-clad
pattern, and bring him into a new area. |
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[Coltrane's questing for his sound] "became his signature, what
people expected from him."
- Ben Ratliff
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Chasin' The Trane
Trane's Blues (a.k.a. John Paul Jones)
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Milestones
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Straight,
No Chaser
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JJM You wrote in the book that "Straight,
No Chaser" from the Miles Davis LP Milestones is one of his great
moments. Why?
BR Because it is where he has the new-found
freedom to just sort of babble -- but it is a controlled babbling that has
an inherent language. It is a really shocking and energetic solo, but it
coheres. The problem with a lot of Coltrane's playing until this point is
that while there were always great ideas in it, they didn't cohere. He was
even working that out in 1957, during the period with Thelonious Monk, when
he was working out all these original licks, stringing them together and
then just kind of shooting them out as if through an automatic rifle. I hear
lots of study and preparation and energy and stamina, but I don't hear the
well-rounded refinements that improvisers get to with their own coherent
language. That started to get communicated in the "Straight, No Chaser" solo. |
| JJM
Some of the era's great artists attended the shows with Monk at the
Five Spot in 1957. Did this audience affect his growth as a player?
BR The fact that famous people were coming
in?
JJM Yes, creative artists who probably weren't
particularly interested in being entertained by a clichéd performance.
Do you think their presence had anything to do with his growth?
BR That isn't something I have given much
thought to -- it is hard to know how interested he may have been in who was
there and who he wanted to impress, and I get the sense that his own standing
within the jazz world and intellectual world was not important to him. He
was very sanguine about that. There is no doubt that those performances were
an important cultural event that built up a lot of steam over six months,
and they helped get the word out about Coltrane, although jazz people had
known about him for a few years by that point.
1957 was an incredibly important year for Coltrane. He quit drugs and alcohol,
he experienced some sort of religious awakening, may have been getting over
some sort of depression, and had this incredibly long-standing gig with a
great group. One of the points of my book is that being able to work as often
as he did that year is so critical to a musician like Coltrane. He was able
to play night after night in the same place for months on end, which is what
made the band take off and become really good. We can talk all we want about
individual figures, and how they are geniuses and whatever, but, finally,
the labor history of jazz is something that should never be underestimated.
Another reason that playing in that group was so important to Coltrane was
that Monk would get up from the piano for long stretches of time, which left
just Coltrane, bass and drums -- which meant he needed content, he had to
have things to play. He was in a really intense studying and learning mode
that year, and he could play all the licks he was practicing in this setting
at the Five Spot. They sounded new and exciting to the audiences. He wasn't
yet at the time when he played these songs and came out sounding like Superman,
but it was a necessary experience for him to become great. |
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"…clearly it wasn't only Monk's individual soloistic style itself
that reshaped Coltrane that summer [1957]. It was Monk's absences: the times
he got up from the piano and walked away from it, or moved in a circle to
hear the music from all angles, leaving Coltrane alone for fifteen or twenty
minutes to improvise, with only the bassist Wilbur Ware to provide some kind
of harmonic companionship."
- Ben Ratliff
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Trinkle Tinkle
In Walked Bud
I Mean You
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"Breathe," by
Lindsay
Erdman
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"Still, consensually, critics showed their frustration. They didn't
understand what the group was trying to do. The rhythm section was more or
less given a pass, but it was the saxophone soloing that challenged credulity,
its length and perhaps its unwillingness to tell a traditional story."
- Ben Ratliff, on critical reaction to 1961's Live at the Village
Vanguard recording
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Traneing In
Impressions , a filmed performance featuring Eric Dolphy with Coltrane's quartet
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JJM
When did the negative reaction to his work begin?
BR You are definitely seeing it by 1958,
during the "Straight, No Chaser" time we talked about, which is when his
playing got really wild, and people were getting the sense that he was
potentially a long-winded musician. He got more criticism in 1960, when he
went on tour with Miles Davis for the last time. But anybody can hear his
recording from Stockholm or Paris and think, "Oh my God. There is something
strange about this guy." You don't have to be a person in tune with the
subtleties of jazz to hear this. At times it sounded like he was having a
baby! There was something supercharged about every time he steps up to solo.
In 1960, when he played like this, it became evident that the music of the
1950's was over, but maybe the rest of band doesn't quite know it yet. It
is as if somebody gave him permission to play in a completely different way
from the rest of the band. Those are strange and amazing records, but many
critics and listeners would determine that they couldn't condone the music
because it was just too self-indulgent.
JJM It also must have been difficult for his
audiences when he began playing with Eric Dolphy…
BR It was, and what is so interesting about
that is Dolphy joined him right after Coltrane's big hit, "My Favorite Things."
This was a song that was being played on the radio, and his next move was
to bring Dolphy into the band. That is one of the things I love about Coltrane
-- he was a reflective, interior man who clearly was not obsessed with career
advancement.
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"Coltrane may be searching for new avenues of expression, but if
it is going to take the form of yawps, squawks, and countless repetitive
runs, then it should be confined to the woodshed."
- Critic Ira Gitler, 1961
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"Coltrane and Dolphy seem bent on pursuing an anarchistic course
in their music that can but be termed anti-jazz."
- John Tynan, in a 1961 edition of Down Beat
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Freddie Freeloader
Blue In Green
All Blues
So What
, a video of Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Paul Chambers, Philly Joe Jones, and Wynton Kelly
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JJM
Concerning his turning inward during the 1960's, you wrote, "As the
ambient noise of the sixties culture grew louder around him, the more he
desired to block it out and hear only himself; the more he went inward."
In which of his recordings did the sound of the 1960's emerge?
BR You could look at Africa Brass as the
beginning of that. It is really interesting how the two major recording events
of 1959 -- Kind of Blue and Giant Steps -- were so close to
each other in terms of recording dates yet were so different musically. While
Giant Steps changes chords every other beat and is a challenging harmonic
exercise, Kind of Blue is about playing modes for long stretches of
time before changing. There was this sense that you can play for a long time
within one scale. I love the fact that they happen so close to one another
because it is absolute proof that there is no logic concerning how jazz evolved.
It's not like jazz went one way until it couldn't go any further, and then
it turned in another direction. No, two opposite things could be happening
at the same time. What the modal thing may have suggested for Coltrane wasn't
that he could be self-indulgent inside this kind of droning music, but that
there was whole new song for jazz -- a kind of folk music -- that people
reacted positively to because it sounded like ancient music, and in some
weird way it sounded recognizable. |
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Giant
Steps
Cousin
Mary
Spiral
Naima , a filmed performance
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Photo by
Lee
Tanner
"If anyone wants to begin to understand how Coltrane could inspire
so much awe so quickly, the reason is probably inside "Alabama." The
incantational tumult he could raise in a long improvisation, the steel-trap
knowledge of harmony, the writing -- that's all very impressive. But "Alabama"
is also an accurate psychological portrait of a time, a complicated mood
that nobody else could render so well."
- Ben Ratliff
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Alabama
Alabama , a filmed performance
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JJM Did
he feel that going in the Giant Steps direction was right for him?
BR In the liner notes, he talks about being
worried that his music was sounding too much like an academic exercise, and
was trying to make it sound prettier. So, yes, he was concerned that he was
going in the right direction. Clearly, he felt that his sound was narrowing
down, which is the moment he likely thought the solution was to expand as
much as he possibly could. He began looking at black spiritual books, and
started listening to recordings of African and Indian music, trying to figure
out how to bring all these things into his music. That was a very 1960's
notion -- bringing in more, the more the merrier, let's not worry about closing
the door, no limits, let's think about making it inclusive. Obviously, that
is what he started to do on his bandstand…
JJM There is definitely some rebellion in
that…A song of Coltrane's that epitomizes the sound of the 1960's is "Alabama,
which you wrote was "…an accurate psychological portrait of a time, a complicated
mood that nobody else could render so well."
BR "Alabama" is amazing because it is so
succinct, and it contains so much of what he was good at -- not just the
cathartic stuff, but the really detailed stuff and the really thoughtful,
sad, and almost romantic stuff. It demonstrates his way of playing quietly
and persuasively. I don't think that he just ever let it all go and said,
"Ok, from now on I am going to play for hours at a time, and I don't care
about self-editing." He kept returning to this idea of self-editing and craft.
One of the reasons his record Stellar Regions succeeds so well is
because all of the songs on the record are short.
Things are never just black and white with him, which is another reason why
I never got bored thinking about him or listening to him, because he never
became a zealot only in one direction -- he never closed the door on any
possibilities. |
| JJM
Regarding Coltrane's influence, the saxophonist Art Pepper wrote, "More
and more I found myself sounding like Coltrane. Never copied any of his licks
consciously, but from my ear and my feeling and my sense of music…When I
got out of the joint the last time, in '66, I had no horns. I could only
afford one horn, and I got a tenor because, I told myself, to make a living
I had to play rock. But what I really wanted to do was play like Coltrane."
When did this desire among musicians to play like Coltrane begin?
BR Wayne Shorter had this desire in something
like 1957, but I think for a lot of people the turnaround moment was either
the recording of "My Favorite Things" or the album Live at Birdland.
That is when many of the musicians young enough to be awed by him at the
time -- people like David Liebman and Sonny Fortune -- went to see him a
lot and were waking up to the idea that they wanted to play like him. It
was at this time when, in terms of the records and information about him
becoming available, things reached their critical mass.
JJM
In 1970, Gene Ammons told Down Beat, "Before John died,
he had gone into a very advanced thing, and had quite a few cats like Pharoah
[Sanders] and Archie [Shepp] in the middle of this thing, and leaving the
scene as suddenly as he did -- he sort of left their minds in a turmoil,
to the effect that they weren't quite sure in what direction they wanted
to go." Is contemporary jazz still feeling the effects of that?
BR I feel much more positive about where
jazz is now because many of the old divisions are healing themselves. Part
of that is just due to the passing of time, and part of that is due to a
new generation of teachers who have come along and assessed the situation.
The timing of Coltrane's death really did a number on jazz because it made
the music he was making toward the end be understood as a kind of ending
place -- like you can't get any freer than this, and you can't get any more
liberated than this. I think some musicians looked at that and said it was
the ultimate place for them to be, and that it was where they wanted to go,
but it was not just music but a new way of thinking and a new way of living.
And then perhaps some other musicians looked at this place and saw it as
a trap, as the darkness. His sudden disappearance did really weird things
for free jazz, especially, because the great practical and philosophical
example is gone, so now what's to be done? |
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"I thought I was going to die from the emotion. I'd never experienced
anything like that in my life. I thought I was just going to explode right
in the place. The energy level kept building up, and I thought, God almighty,
I can't take it."
- Saxophonist Joe McPhee, after seeing him at the Village Gate in
1965
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The Promise

Afro Blue , a filmed performance
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John
Coltrane, by Cliff Warner
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"With Coltrane, sound ruled over everything. It eventually superseded
composition: his later records present one track after another of increasing
similarity, n which the search for sound superseded solos and structure.
His authoritative sound, especially as he could handle it in a ballad, was
the reason older musicians respected him so - his high-register sound, for
example, in "Say It Over and Over Again." But it was also the reason younger
and less formally adept musicians were drawn to him, and why they could even
find themselves a place on his bandstand."
- Ben Ratliff
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A Love Supreme , a filmed performance |
JJM The saxophonist Von Freeman said that
Coltrane "…left a lot of wounded soldiers along the way. See, cats are still
trying to recover from the Trane explosion. And, of course, they shouldn't
look at it that way…Trane assimilated everything; they've got to assimilate
everything up to Trane and move on." What is he suggesting here?
BR I believe what he is saying is that Coltrane
is part of you, it is filled in now, so don't worry about that so much. Learn
about what produced a Coltrane so you can naturally find a way to get beyond
him.
Not every artist is patient enough and curious enough to look outside of
their own art form to figure out what to do next, but Coltrane was. He was
interested in life -- in science, math, religion, architecture, dance, history,
and he was sort of self-taught in these areas, but he was sure that he could
find ways of drawing on those interests and re-routing them back into his
music. That kind of confidence is what we need to hear more of in jazz.
JJM Sure, because there is such a danger to
any contemporary musician who falls too deeply into what Coltrane's sound
was. After all, a major component in jazz is its individuality…
BR Yes, there is a danger in glorifying
Coltrane's sound, of course. It is one of the best rules for any artist,
including writers. You have to move on from what you loved when you were
most impressionable. It isn't necessary to throw that stuff away, but you
have to keep moving, you have to keep looking for something new. That's the
point. |
JJM
Who among contemporary musicians comes closest to the influence Coltrane
had on musicians?
BR It is very hard to say, and I really don't
think I can come up with anyone, because we are not talking just about a
"music as music" language, nor is it just an improvisational or sound language.
It is a philosophical language. I am sorry to say that I don't think there
is anyone out there doing this now, but that's ok -- there doesn't have to
be somebody like that. We can do fine trying to answer other questions and
trying to solve other problems.
Coltrane was also a man who created great opportunities, and since he was
well-liked and trusted, it might have been easier for him to have opportunities
come his way. But it is important we don't forget that he was in the right
place at the right time. The world was ready for a John Coltrane, and jazz
was ready to receive him and elevate him. It is quite possible it isn't ready
for someone like Coltrane right now.
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Lee
Tanner
"Coltrane was always concerned with blazing ahead, one popular line of
reasoning goes; he didn't place much value in what he left behind him."
- Ben Ratliff
_____ All Or Nothing At All
My Favorite Things , a filmed performance
Coltrane:
The Story of a Sound
by
Ben Ratliff
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About Ben Ratliff
Ben Ratliff has been a jazz critic at The New York Times since
1996. He lives in Manhattan with his wife and their two sons. His New
York Times Essential Library: Jazz was published in 2002.
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Critical Acclaim for
Coltrane: The Story of a Sound
"Ben Ratliff's Coltrane is criticism with a sense of the man. It sees
the '60s anew without distorting them beyond recognition for someone who
was there. It conceptualizes jazz as a still-living music. It makes you want
to listen again and think some more."
-- Robert Christgau
"Ben Ratliff's Coltrane is an extraordinarily vivid account of
the creative process -- both that of the artist and that of the people whose
works respond to his. Ratliff is such a terrific writer that he can make
musical points clear even to readers who know nothing about theory. This
book will be passed from hand to hand."
-- Luc Sante, author of Low Life and The Factory of Facts
"A triumphant analysis, which captures in well-chosen words the charisma
of Coltrane's sound, the excitement of his journey, and the unique quality
of his influence, without ever surrendering to the usual jazz book gush.
Ben Ratliff's measured intelligence and readable, elegant prose, his willingness
to make necessary distinctions and unsentimental judgments, earn him a place
among the best critics we have."
-- Phillip Lopate
"John Coltrane’s stylistic evolution in the 1950s and 60s was a signal
cultural eventas much spiritual and political as technical--and one
whose repercussions continue to haunt us. In taking a new look at how Coltrane
changed and what those changes have meant to the musicians who followed him,
Ben Ratliff brings a mercurial era lucidly to life, sometimes sharply questioning
received wisdom, paying close attention to the needs and difficulties of
working musicians, and underscoring the continued massive relevance of
Coltrane’s music."
-- Geoffrey O’Brien, author of Sonata for Jukebox
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This interview took place on January 29, 2008
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