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Josephine Baker
The effervescent smile of Josephine Baker is easily recognizable. The
mellifluous tone of her voice is legendary. Epitomizing the adage "all
that glitters is not gold," her life was plagued with broken marriages,
discrimination, poverty, and eventually illness.
In his book,
The
Josephine Baker Story, author Ean Wood, who previously wrote of George
Gershwin's life, presents us with a portrait of a truly remarkable woman
whose charm, vivacity and captivating personality live on long after her
death.
Our exclusive interview with Ean Wood covers her youth, her move to Paris,
her role during World War II, and other revealing details of her life...
Listen to Josephine Baker sing
Confessing .
Interview topics
Ean Wood's background
Josephine Baker's youth
Baker's entry into show
business
Baker and Paris
Publicizing Josephine Baker
Nazi Germany and worldwide
racism
Black America's view of Baker
Her opinion of pre World
War II Ethiopia
World War II
Post WW II racism
Baker's love of children
and its impact
The legacy of Josephine Baker
Ean Wood's background
Who was your childhood hero?
EW Well, that's kind of a difficult one,
because I've never really had heroes. In the field of performing arts my
earliest interest was in radio, and I can remember when I was about eight
or nine being an avid listener to Fred Allen. Which might sound odd from
somebody raised in the UK, but my father was devoted to AFN Munich. I guess
you could say Fred Allen was the first person I was a fan of.
JJM What inspired you to become a biographer?
EW An interest in people. The fact that
everybody is unique, and often strange to other people. Biographies, like
good novels or movies, show different ways of behaving. They celebrate the
wild unconformity of the human race.
JJM Why a book on Josephine Baker?
EW Josephine Baker was about as wild and
nonconforming as they come, as well as being a magnificent entertainer. She
was a true instinctive, acting on impulse all the time, whether it was
improvising her dancing and singing, enlisting in the secret service during
World War Two, fighting bravely for racial equality, having wild affairs
or overspending recklessly. For her, to want to do something meant going
right out there and doing it, and she showed a lot of people a more instinctive
way to live.
Josephine Baker's youth
JJM Who was the primary inspiration of Baker's
life?
EW: There wasn't any one person. Born in St Louis in 1906, she was steeped
from childhood in the music of the city - ragtime and early jazz - and even
more in the dancing. It was a time when America was dance-crazy, and new
steps were being invented almost every day. She learnt every dance-step that
came along. A little later in her life, when she'd decided she also
wanted to become a singer, she picked up styles and ways of performing from
anyone she found had something she could use. Ethel Waters in America, and
later, in France, singers like Damia (who was also an influence on Edith
Piaf) and Mabel Mercer.
JJM What was her childhood like?
EW Deprived. And that's putting it mildly.
Deprived both financially and emotionally. Her father walked out on her mother
when Josephine was an infant. Her mother resented Josephine for looking
like him, and was cold and critical towards her. Her stepfather, who married
her mother when Josephine was five, found difficulty getting work - he was
a laborer - so the family was mostly supported by her mother taking in washing.
She had a younger brother and two younger half-sisters, and they lived in
rat-infested hovels with newspapers for wallpaper. From about the age of
six she learned to scavenge for food in refuse bins and steal coal from the
rail-yards. She once said she only took up dancing to keep warm.
Baker's entry into
show business
JJM How did she get into show business? What
was her most successful U.S. Role?
EW She was a natural comic. One of those
kids who clown around in school to get attention and to rebel. She combined
clowning with all the dance steps she'd learned, crossing her eyes and going
knock-kneed and grinning a big goofy grin. And she was doing that in a club
she waited table in - this would have been when she was about fourteen -
and she was spotted by the leader of a small raggedy street-band (a trio),
who hired her to join it. Playing to the queue outside a vaudeville theater
she was spotted by the theatre manager, who hired her (and the trio) to fill
in for an act that had not showed up. And she was in show-biz.
Her most successful role in the US in her early days was in the ground-breaking
black musical "Shuffle Along" - the show that made black entertainers fashionable
in the early Twenties and kicked off all that "going to Harlem in ermine
and pearls". She was the comedy dancer on the end of the chorus line who
got all the steps wrong, and was so likeable and funny that she ended up
being paid nearly as much as the stars.
Baker and Paris
JJM What most inspired her to leave the U.S.
for Paris? Was it a particular eventor a series of events?
EW It was a particular event. She was no
longer in a show, but appearing at a Harlem club (with Ethel Waters), and
wondering how to develop her career. She didn't want to be just a zany comic
all her life - she wanted to be glamorous as well. A rich American socialite,
Caroline Dudley, came to the club wanting to cast Ethel Waters as a singer
in a "black vaudeville" show she was going to put on in a Paris theatre.
Ethel didn't want to go, and Caroline, on impulse, asked Josephine if she'd
join the show as a comic dancer. Josephine dithered nervously for a while,
but eventually agreed to go. She was fed up with the racial intolerance she
found in mid-Twenties America, even in New York, and had heard that in France
Blacks were treated like equal human beings. Also she loved the idea of
traveling.
JJM What was going on in Paris at the time
of Baker's arrival? What opportunities existed in Paris that didn't in the
U.S?
EW What wasn't? These were the "Annees Folles"
(as France called the Roaring Twenties). Everybody was on a party celebrating
the end of the Great War. Also Paris was the center of almost everything
exciting that was happening in the arts - it was full of writers and painters
and composers. Many of them were American - people like Hemingway and Gershwin
flocked there on visits. They liked being in a city where art was respected
- where artists were respected. Also, where you could drink legally.
JJM What was it about Baker that Paris fell
in love with?
EW She fell in love with the freedom she
found there as a black woman. But she was also a massive success as a performer.
Her near-nude erotic pas-de-deux ("Danse Sauvage") that she performed in
Caroline Dudley's show - as well as her uninhibited Charleston - made her
the talk of the town. She was invited to all the best parties, and found
herself suddenly a celebrity among celebrities. Artists like Picasso
painted her. Nobility socialized with her. Couturiers designed chic gowns
for her. And she was now being seen as beautiful as well as amusing. She
was having the time of her life. It's no surprise she fell in love with the
place.
JJM So much of Baker's success seemed centered
around the theme of "black woman as exotic creature", both on stage and on
film, yet Paris was considered racially liberated. How did those two go together?
EW They don't really conflict. It's one
thing to perceive someone as strange and exotic, some wild intuitive creature
in touch with her primitive instincts, and a quite different thing to see
her as subhuman. If anything, they saw her as superhuman, a person who had
not lost touch with her inner self the way (they thought) civilized people
had. To some extent, I suppose, she was seen as a curiosity, the latest new
sensation. But she was lively and amusing in company, and people enjoyed
having her around.
JJM While her stage career was a smashing
success, did she have critical success as an actress? What was her most
successful film performance?
EW She did little formal acting, on stage
or film. Her films were mostly musicals in which she played a thinly-disguised
version of herself. What she really loved, and what she was really good at,
was relating to an audience, either in a music-hall or a night-club. But
she did become quite a good actor in films. Her most successful was undoubtedly
"Zou-Zou", made in 1934. It had the best script, and she had her best co-star,
the young Jean Gabin.
Publicizing Josephine Baker
JJM One of her 'husbands", Pepito, was quite
adept at creatively publicizing Baker. What were the most outrageous things
he did to publicize her?
EW Well, he wasn't legally her husband.
He was her lover and manager. In fact their "marriage" was one of his publicity
stunts. It made a good story - poor black American girl rises to fame and
fortune in Paris and marries Italian nobility. Not that Pepito was real nobility
either. He called himself "Count Pepito de Abatino", but in fact he was a
Sicilian stonemason.
In the late Twenties, after their "marriage", they went on a two-year tour
all over Europe and South America, and while they were in Budapest a Hungarian
cavalry officer started paying attention to her. Pepito slapped his face
and challenged him to a duel at dawn the next day. But he made sure to let
the officer know it was only a publicity stunt. It worked brilliantly.
Reporters were on hand, Josephine screamed realistically while they
fought, and Pepito got a scratch on the shoulder. It made all the papers
and the officer was a romantic hero among his fellow-officers.
Nazi Germany and
worldwide racism
JJM Given the rise of Nazism and racism in
Germany, how was she viewed throughout the rest of Europe as she made this
tour? How was she characterized by the Axis?
EW In places like Austria and Germany she
was disliked - she was abhorred - by the early Nazi movement and by the Catholic
authorities. Both saw her as degenerate for her sexy dancing, and the Nazis
saw her as racially impure as well. But the majority of the public in those
countries adored her. And I ought to say that her dancing was as witty as
much as erotic. Like Mae West at around the same time, she found sex not
only natural but funny. Nazis, of course, were never very good at understanding
funny. When they rose to power in the Thirties she was branded as "decadent"
in a pamphlet by Goebbels, along with a number of other famous artists, such
as Picasso and the theatrical producer Max Reinhardt.
JJM Baker's trip to South America awakened
her to the specter of racism being a worldwide problem. How did this change
her?
EW It helped to strengthen and sharpen the
awareness of racism that she'd had from her childhood in the American south.
For the first time she spoke out openly about it, writing an angry open letter
to several Paris newspapers, complaining that dancing "practiced by a white
woman is moral and by a black one transgresses".
Black America's view
of Baker
JJM Throughout her career, Baker had tremendous
success entertaining predominantly white audiences. How did the black culture
respond to her work?
EW She had a certain amount of trouble with
the black culture in America, especially in the Thirties. At that time black
Americans were increasingly proud of their race's achievements, especially
in the field of entertainment, which was one of the few fields open to them.
People like Ethel Waters, Louis Armstrong, Fats Waller, Bill Robinson, etc.
etc. were being accepted as entertainers (not just black entertainers) by
white America. What the black public resented about Josephine was that
increasingly she was singing and dancing in a Parisian style. It was unfamiliar
to them, and they felt she was betraying her roots, that she wasn't proud
of being black. Which of course she was.
JJM In addition to a budding film career,
Baker, whose singing became more featured than her dancing, performed in
an Offenbach operetta called "La Creole". How did this affect her life?
EW Very little. It proved that her voice
was now good enough to handle operetta, and that she could act in a straight
piece. And it was a big success with both critics and public, more for her
performance than for the piece, which is not one of Offenbach's best. But
she rarely touched operetta again. And in a way she was right. She had much
more to offer as a star performer, rather than burying her blazing personality
in a conventional role.
JJM As the style of dance Baker was famous
for, the Charleston, evolved, and as the swing era brought new styles of
dance, such as tap, how did Baker adjust?
EW Not at all. Like I said earlier, this
is why for a while black America was a bit suspicious of her. She continued
developing along her own lines, as an increasingly glamorous Parisian star.
At one point she even had ballet lessons from Balanchine. She went her own
way.
Her opinion
of pre World War II Ethiopia
JJM In 1935, she spoke out in favor of Mussolini's
invasion of Ethiopia, believing, as Mussolini did, that Haile Selassie enslaved
Ethiopians. Baker said she would be "willing to recruit a Negro army" to
oust Selassie. Given Selassie's standing in America, how did this effect
her relationship with America, and what impact did this belief have on her
return to the U.S. at this time?
EW This was a typical example of Josephine's
quick-fire instinctiveness leading her astray. Being in touch with your feelings
is fine, but it can be difficult if they change like traffic-lights, and
especially if you haven't understood the situation. The effect her outburst
had when she returned to America to appear in the Ziegfeld Follies of 1936
was that it tended to make audiences somewhat hostile to her. And in that
show she needed all the goodwill she could get, because the idea of a black
girl singing and dancing like a Paris chanteuse was odd and unfamiliar. So
she flopped badly. After the Second World War, with many Americans having
served in Europe, and with French performers like Edith Piaf and Charles
Aznavour coming along, she had no trouble. Americans learned who she
was.
World War II
JJM When war was declared, Baker volunteered,
and was accepted as a member of the Free French. Her role during the war
could only be described as heroic, from delivering classified information
to the Free French to entertaining American troops in north Africa and Italy.
Was this the "role" she was most proud of during her life?
EW Yes. She was made an honorary sub-lieutenant
in the Ladies' Auxiliary of the French Air Force, and after the war was awarded
the Legion d'Honneur. For a woman desperate for approval all her life, and
getting it mostly from audiences, these honours, earned in a noble cause
(she saw the war as only an episode in her fight against racism) were enormously
reassuring.
Post WW II racism
JJM When she returned to the U.S. following
the war, and in spite of African-American efforts during the war, she experienced
and witnessed the racism she had all her life in her visits to America. What
did she do to advance the cause of civil rights in America?
EW A lot. Touring America at the end of
1947 with her husband, bandleader Jo Bouillon, who was white, they had enormous
difficulty finding a New York hotel that would accept a mixed-race couple.
She felt (rightly) that America was even more racially intolerant then than
it had been in the Twenties. To investigate this, she set off incognito (as
"Mrs Brown") to travel through America, especially the southern states. There
she attempted sit-ins (years before they became commonplace) getting thrown
out of lunch-counters and ladies' rooms, and going right back in. She began
lecturing on civil rights at black universities. On later visits to
America, into the early Fifties, she campaigned for integrated audiences
and hotels and transport, for equal opportunities in employment. She used
all her celebrity to publicize her fight, and got such a reputation as a
crusader that the NAACP declared Sunday, 20th May 1951 to be Josephine Baker
Day. There was a great celebration in Harlem, and 100,000 people turned out
to honor her.
Baker's love
of children and its impact
JJM At one point, Baker opened up the grounds
of her estate, Le Beau-Chene, to children of the St. Charles Orphanage, becoming
"godmother" to them. This love for children - what was its genesis?
EW Nothing too difficult there. Like many
women she had very strong natural longings to gave children. For some reason
she was finding it impossible to produce children of her own, and these dammed-up
longings became stronger and stronger in her as the years went by.
JJM As a result of the racism she encountered
throughout her life, Baker's desire was to adopt children from all walks
of life and all races, referring to them as her "Rainbow Tribe". Did she
feel this benefited her crusade for international brotherhood?
EW Yes, she did. She and her husband Jo
Bouillon lived with the Rainbow Tribe at her chateau in the south of France,
which she also ran as a leisure complex, with hotels and sports facilities.
It was called Les Milandes, and she used the publicity for Les Milandes to
let the world know about her children living together happily and peacefully,
as the races of the world could do. She even had plans to use the place as
a College of International Brotherhood, bringing hundreds of young people
from all over the world to attend courses, so that they could go back home
to their countries and spread the word.
JJM Baker eventually adopted a total of 12
children from all over the world. What impact did this have on her personal
life - financial security and her marriage?
EW It wrecked them. All through all her
campaigning she continued to perform, bringing in money, but she was a poor
administrator, and overspent recklessly, both on the children and the chateau.
Her husband, Jo, tried to restrain her, but she saw this as trying to obstruct
her crusade. They had rows, and eventually split. And Les Milandes eventually
got so much in debt that in 1968 her creditors had her, and the Rainbow Tribe,
evicted. Fortunately they were saved by Princess Grace of Monaco, who had
long admired Josephine's crusading courage. She found them a villa to live
in on the south coast of France, near Monaco.
The legacy of Josephine
Baker
JJM Ultimately, what is Josephine Baker's
legacy?
EW As a crusader in the Forties and Fifties
she advanced the cause of civil rights in America, so that conditions for
Blacks improved faster than they might have done without her. As a dancer
in the Twenties she brought Afro-American dancing to the attention of European
dancers and choreographers, helping to bring about a creative fusion of styles,
and as a wonderful mixture of cheerful instinctive vitality and fashionable
chic, she was a great influence and example to young people. She showed that
being real was better than having over-correct good manners, and that life
was for living. She told it like it is. And above all, of course, she was
a hypnotic entertainer - magnificently stylish, sexy and witty. People who
saw her remember.
Josephine Baker
*photos used by permission of the publisher
Baker in 1927, wearing
a cap designed by Aques |
Josephine's finale costume
for the 1927 Folies Bergere
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Josephine Baker and
Pepito |
Baker, Pepito and an ostrich,
1928 |
Baker in Paris following
its liberation |
Baker onstage with a soldier
during World War II |
Baker, husband Jo,
and 10 of her children,
the "Rainbow Tribe" |
Baker and husband Jo Bouillon |
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